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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2009.01.02 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 02/01/2009 11:52:23
Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 02/01/2009 11:50:49
Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 02/01/2009 11:50:23
Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 02/01/2009 11:50:02
 Originally by: Sokratesz
MWD vagabond gets utterly destroyed by BS'es since the damage formula changes. Torps and cruises hit for near-full damage and pulses and AC track it near 100%.
If you want to solo other hacs BS'es or bc then an AB will do much better because it doesn't bring the lol zomg sig penalty so you can actually speedtank them. Anything smaller to chase down, well, MWD.
Near full damage? In my experience you'll still take reduced damage from torps/cruises, not a complete speed tank anymore but certainly miles away from being 'utterly destroyed'.
With mwd shut down and running on the good base speed damage is reduced too, I've had no real issues taking missile volleys with mwd off.
I've been shot by ravens a lot since patch and wouldn't say their damage output has been stellar. (dunno how much, but I'd guess around 150dps maybe from cruise raven judging by how much shield you lose)
With turret BSs I can try to enter webrange and get under their guns now since even scrambled and webbed I'll still have the speed edge over them.
Bottom line is mwd > ab I guess, at least for me.
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
DEATH'S LEGION
Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Lilith Velkor on 02/01/2009 12:56:38
Originally by: ry ry
how should we adapt to being slightly slower than before (beyond not bothering to engage zealots solo anymore)?
I've not yet adapted at all tbh, no real need as the vaga works as good as before (maybe even better depending on your prepatch fit).
If there is a solo Zealot what about just running up to point blank and melt him?
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Lilith Velkor
Minmatar
DEATH'S LEGION
Red Box.
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Posted - 2009.01.02 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Lilith Velkor
Near full damage? In my experience you'll still take reduced damage from torps/cruises, not a complete speed tank anymore but certainly miles away from being 'utterly destroyed'.
Wrong. Look at the numbers for an AB fit as displayed by my research here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=923225&page=1#1 Summary: afterburner speedtanks godly.
Then go out on sisi and see what a volley of wrath cruise missiles does to a vaga going 5km/s with a MWD. Raep, utter raep.
Hmm, mine only goes a bit more than 3kms on TQ and I've not had any problems surviving cruise volleys really, then again I usually try to not have the mwd running when I'm getting hit.
AB fits might work on SiSi where you dont care about the ship, on TQ they are highly impractical tho, more so since the invulnerability field makes it vulnerable to neuting.
I dont doubt your numbers, just their impact on TQ reality.
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